The surgical mask lot always cracked me up even in those days! Cbl was scarry. Clearly a psychopath, Bobby did not hesitate to punch, kick, headbutt or shoot anybody who got in his way. Never experienced anything like it and i was a kid at the time really. The programme, called 'F-Troop, Treatment and the Half-way Line,' after the three mobs that roamed The Den, introduced such characters as Harry The Dog, Mad Pat and Bobby The Wolf to the wider. Learn more. Bobby the Wolf, Harry the Dog, Mad Pat and Winkle haha. Funnily enough, that Millwall area is probably the least changed (speaking of the social demographics). After viewing product detail pages, look here to find an easy way to navigate back to pages you are interested in. I went home and away since the Mids 70's to the earl 2000's andthe mob we had in the early eights was the best for me ,then daysloads of us use to travel to place lick Oldham & Newcastle on the. The 1977 Millwall one is great, it's got a bit of the Monty Python style about it. On that night, approximately 20,000 people packed into a ground that usually only held half that number to watch Luton beat Millwall 10. Early 80's without a doubt. Bobby the Wolf. [2][3] On five occasions The Den was closed by the Football Association and the club has received numerous fines for crowd disorder. Download the free Kindle app and start reading Kindle books instantly on your smartphone, tablet, or computer - no Kindle device required. That is understandable to a point. It also analyses reviews to verify trustworthiness. Looks interesting, but unfortunately I can't get it to load. ","fractionalValue":"99","symbolPosition":"left","hasSpace":false,"showFractionalPartIfEmpty":true,"offerListingId":"bMVY%2FQLXZhZZFogzdPqpm9trfCfZKnauBDVhmdPTdDRw4HOPqItA18BukPxnLCV2JB0WFqG1%2BsoZIU3IxTYBtAdLdhqRiQTm61A7RJKgzrYuPxuLz5vYbjSM%2B%2Bq1YT90","locale":"en-GB","buyingOptionType":"NEW"}], Item can be returned in its original condition for a full refund or replacement within 30 days of receipt. [34] During a game between Millwall and Huddersfield Town, The Observer reported that a Huddersfield Town fan had thrown a coin at a linesman, and that some Millwall fans had intervened, and handed the culprit over to police. They have a prominent place in football culture that means they have a relevance that. [28][29] In the aftermath of the disorder, Millwall were handed three charges by the FA and later cleared of all of them; West Ham received four charges and were found guilty on two counts: violent, threatening, obscene and provocative behaviour, and entering the field of play. [15], In May 2002, hundreds of hooligans attaching themselves to Millwall were involved in disorder around the ground, after the team lost a play-off game to Birmingham City. A police spokeswoman said that 47 police officers and 24 police horses were injured, and the Metropolitan Police considered suing the club after the events. The booing on Saturday was despicable, the response last night appalling. Give as a gift or purchase for a team or group. Sorry, there was a problem loading this page. [12] In 1982 Millwall club chairman Alan Thorne threatened to close the club because of violence sparked by losing in the FA Cup to non-league side Slough Town. The programme, called F-Troop, Treatment and the Half-way Line, after the three mobs that roamed The Den, introduced such characters as Harry The Dog, Mad Pat and Bobby The Wolf to the wider public. Accordingly, heres a link to an hour long film shown on ITV in 1985 (uninteresting fact alert - it was one of the first progs I recorded on my VHS recorder which you could set to record one prog at any time, bit shit if u were out all evening or on hols). You can change your choices at any time by visiting Cookie Preferences, as described in the Cookie Notice. The BBC set the tone early when the narrator suggested: Millwall is more than a football club, its a way of life. Posted February 10, 2015. WHU77 8:55 Sun Mar . The real fans today, the blue collar lot, are being priced out of the game as its all about commercialism, big pay packets for the players and big money for the owners the real fans are steadily being forced to watch more games on the TV in the comfort of their own homesas I do now living overseas..than going to the grounds; but IMO when I watch our games, or any other it is without doubt that the fans have made the EPL what it is today. Please try again. Famous for his Awooooooooo howl, which could be heard every time he went into battle, Harry is perhaps best known for his 1977 appearance on the British documentary Panorama, where a startled nation witnessed Harrys hooligan activities at first hand, and because of his notorious brawl with neo-Nazi hardman Mickey Crane, which many regard as the most violent and bloody fist fight of the century. Bwahaaa now that was funnyshame, some of the F-Troop used to drink in my Aunt's pub in Mile End. Using your mobile phone camera - scan the code below and download the Kindle app. Many fans blame the scheme for diminishing Millwall's away support, such as at Leeds United where fans are issued with vouchers which are then exchanged for tickets at a designated point of West Yorkshire Police's choosing on the day of the game. As this has been a theme the last two nights there were also some great paperbacks written at the time. I know i am sounding like an old geezer (but i suppose i am sort of getting there now!!) We are an easy club to criticise and in my time [at the club], the way we have been reported is unfair", he said. You can post now and register later. These ebooks can only be redeemed by recipients in the US. , X-Ray Just think what we would have done had we had mobile phones back in the day????? Unable to add item to List. Last night everyone who came to the 1-1 draw with Queens Park Rangers was given a flyer that pleaded with those present to respect players who kneeled. Only racists want Millwall to fail in the fight against racism. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. Reviewed in the United Kingdom on February 14, 2022. Had to get stuck in that day and Chelsea . "Bobby the Wolf, Harry the dog, Mad Pat and Winkle." Poor old Winkle - how come he got stuck with . Display as a link instead, [6], The stigma of violence attached to Millwall can be traced back over 110 years. In the same year, a referee was attacked and the FA ordered the club to erect fences around The Den's terracing. 2. played on my head for a few seconds!. Like click here n grab it to watch it.. You must log in or register to reply here. Learn more. #7. Please try again. Football Hooligan, And the Leeds United Service Crews Top Boy. Come together to confront prejudice? try telling that to harry the dog, bobby the wolf, mad pat and winkle, harry the dog is dead, ginger bob is a fat old cunt and dont know the other two, I do however, know a few millwall of today and i wouldnt shit myslf put it that way, Only know them names from that panorama documentary. Seemed to be more interest than I thought about the Football Factory film. Redemption links and eBooks cannot be resold. Not someone who was active, but was at most of the games when it went off big time and was inadvertently involved sometimes. Informative interview with said Mr Dog can be found here All I know about Harry is that he's dead. It was described by the BBC as one of the worst cases of civil disorder seen in Britain in recent times. If any proof was needed that the deep, underlying problems of racism are trivialised and only addressed on a superficial level, the Millwall experience of the past four days makes depressing evidence. Both sets of supporters were primarily made up of dockers, who lived and worked in the same locality in east and south London. Bobby The Wolf is still about. For anyone that knows football - that is a penalty. Reviewed in the United Kingdom on November 29, 2021, Worst piece of fiction I have ever read,should have called it, Reviewed in the United Kingdom on May 28, 2020, I thought it was about harry the dog but the book is rubbish from the first page to the last. "I see it as unjust. Sunderland in the Milk Cup, home and away and by all accounts at Parsons Green, Tottenham in 1978 I was at Seven Sisters and we did really well, and Upton Park in 1981 which rarely gets mentioned. [9] As a result, rival hooligan firms gained access to the stadium. It is true..the past is a different country! The knifing happened just half-an-hour before the return Milk Cup tie between the two London clubs notorious for their hooligan supporters. Additional gift options are available when buying one eBook at a time. [32], After a game against Queens Park Rangers at Loftus Road in September 2010, manager Kenny Jackett said Millwall's hooligan problems are to a certain extent exaggerated by media sensationalism. 70's and 80's were my time. The BBC approached a number of teams and only Millwall agreed to become involved in the filming. I was wearing a Tartan scarf with a CFC badge sewed on it!. , Word Wise Knew the face can't remember his name was a bit older than us. try telling that to harry the dog, bobby the wolf, mad pat and winkle harry the dog is dead, ginger bob is a fat old cunt and dont know the other two, I do however, know a few millwall of today and i wouldnt shit myslf put it that way If I remember correctly the supporters coach broke down on the M4 when it was heading to Bristol Rovers. [30], Former club chairman Reg Burr once commented: "Millwall are a convenient coat peg for football to hang its social ills on",[31] an example being the reporting of convicted murderer Gavin Grant. Three Millwall keepers in one match. More than four decades on, the racism is slightly more sophisticated. But to answer your question I agree with you, mid 90's was the peak. Last night was a chance for the club to make a real statement and draw red lines about what is and isnt acceptable inside the stadium. [35][36], In April 2013, Millwall met Wigan Athletic in a semi-final of the FA Cup. You're Going Home in a F*****g Ambulance: Hooligan Wars - The Inside Story, NIGHTMARE: The Incredible Story of Britain's Most Prolific Football Hooligan. We met at fb and got of the tube at surrey docks i think. Am I Nearly There Yet? Very hairy outside that night. Loved early to mid 80s The millwall game remember them just before kick off giving it some and getting run out of the west.into the north and setting fire to everything they could . We work hard to protect your security and privacy. , File size , Text-to-Speech Both those Millwall games Chelsea were hugely impressive, but there are other one offs that were similar. The Wolves fans lobbed quite a few darts into our side that day. 27 February 2015 Dr Desperate Harry appears at 2:00 and 15:04 in the above YouTube clip, and with the rest of F Troop at 30:15 ("Bobby The Wolf, Harry The Dog, Mad Pat and Winkle piled into the bus") 27 February 2015 Bobby SVARC A large proportion of the 2,000 fans in The Den on Saturday expressed their outrage when the teams took the knee before the game against Derby County. In the early 80's (as someone who was part of the Chelsea firms in the late 70's to early 90's when CCTV made us mere mortals) have to say the fashion, the special scene and organisation made it our strongest. Try again. And don't forget cambridge away first game of the season when the general was in all the newspapers what a mob that plus pop robson scoring the winner.on his debut and brighton in the cup bank holiday weekend the rows started on the friday night , and finished with us all over the pitch and the old bill running everywhere, I remember the Brighton game I got down there early on the Saturday and all the talk was, I can remember a few of us having a couple of drink in the town pub before hand and then walk to. Please try again. The crowds on the bank having caught the fever, free fights were plentiful. , Screen Reader Follow authors to get new release updates, plus improved recommendations. [27] On 25 August 2009, Millwall played away at West Ham United in the Football League Cup, losing 31 after extra time. To calculate the overall star rating and percentage breakdown by star, we dont use a simple average. Bobby SVARC Bobby the Wolf - F-Troop. You are using an out of date browser. Pint Pot is his name. Hooligan Agony: Anecdotes on Wakefields Paul Sykes. We also use these cookies to understand how customers use our services (for example, by measuring site visits) so we can make improvements. harry the dog millwall hooligan dead. Its not about bigotry, its about us. The message from the boardroom was clear: it was crucial that they should not be provided with any more ammunition. Yeah London has changed and grown. Poor Millwall. The show was extremely damaging for the club. This has led to a siege mentality among supporters of the club, which gave rise to the Millwall fans' famous terrace chant, No one likes us, we don't care, being sung in defiant defence of themselves and their team. Not quite. Download the free Kindle app and start reading Kindle books instantly on your smartphone, tablet or computer no Kindle device required. It explained: It is their right to do so., It continued: The eyes of the world are on this football club your club, and then came the bombshell. And so the narrative shifts, at least in the minds of those whose conduct created the situation. [37] Towards the end of the match, violence broke out in part of the stand allocated to Millwall, with individuals fighting amongst themselves and then against police, resulting in 14 arrests, of which two were Wigan supporters. We dont share your credit card details with third-party sellers, and we dont sell your information to others. Haha. The tension grew with every step we took and i recall we got into the ground early. 2nd February 74 was the home game. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Millwall lost the game 20. I was only fortunate to get to as many home games as I could and some away games in and around London as I was living in Reading and although the cost of getting in the ground wasn't high, the cost of the train fare etc and a 'fun' day out ate into the wage packet, especially as a young apprentice..anyway my point is that as I sit here 40+ years later I sometimes reflect when I read posts like yours; Was this the era that had one of the biggest impacts on the history of footballbecause of the fights and the way the old grounds were designed; fans standing on the terraces leaning against the railings and being pushed forward from the back etc, the feeling of the warm piss of the nutter behind you running down your leg, caused many significant changes in terms of safety and security, none of those things entered our heads then, let alone the owners. I was still at school and was the only one of mates who went that day, same as to spuds away a couple of years earlier in a night game where a small group of us went inyo the park lane end (i stayed in there the whole game). The lad living with he's mother was hillarious . Not to be denied his afternoon's fun Harry hitched a lift to Rovers and carried out his lone assault on the home end - he was promptly ejected. : Met an old chap a few years ago here in Germany and he told me about a currently mob of about 70 - 80 lads; quite disappointing for an old chap like me, who can remember better times. How's the head lol. For my troubles, i got his Kung Fu numchuckers (?) He lived in Cuckfield for a while and I used to have a pint with him in The Sussex in Haywards Heath on the odd occasion. A lot of dodgy haircuts in that documentary as I remember. just got a text from a mate, newcastle fan, who is there tonight : "Fuck me, its a good job villa are wank, worse side ive seen in donkeys. (1 GK, 2 outfield players) Kitson missing a penalty. I guess most people have worked out they're spoof books, a football hooligan version of Spinal Tap but not as funny. : in relation to the disorder". Sunderland in the Milk Cup, home and away and by all accounts at Parsons Green, Tottenham in 1978 I was at Seven Sisters and we did really well, and Upton Park in 1981 which rarely gets mentioned. If I remember correctly the supporters coach broke down on the M4 when it was heading to Bristol Rovers. Members. Came down on the train!. Knew most of them as a few of them drank in my local which was called the Squire in them days the lad with the big hair and glasses was Billy Piummer young lad was Gary Roberts usually got on with them well except of course around September 1976 when there was a couple of rows between our pub the Saxon which was Chels and the Squire I remember one Sunday night Little Tommy from Paddington (RIP) and a few others came over for a drink the Millwall lot came up from the squire and ran most of our mob up the road to Lower Sydenham station I got done pretty bad with a glass luckily I had one of the thick wrap round cardigans on which took most of it as they tried to do me in the back funny enough was drinking with them a couple of weeks later as if nothing had happened funny old game football eh!! Borata had an incredible game that night. By Gary Johnson pinched our goal. I can remember a programme on the radio away back early 70s, must have been about a year after Barcelona. : Vol. [38], The infamous terrace chant of Millwall supporters , Utrecht Bunnikside, Glasgow Rangers ICF, Westham Massive, Millwall F.C.West Ham United F.C. Thats about as i remember it too. It whispered no one likes us into the ear of the worst elements instead of unequivocally confronting prejudice. It was 2 February 1974. An alcoholic who died in a shop doorway. Early 80's without a doubt. Can't keep his job after this week surely ?? To learn more about how and for what purposes Amazon uses personal information (such as Amazon Store order history), please visit our Privacy Notice. Thread starter mil1lion; Start date Feb 19, 2017; Forums. Instead the BBC portrayed hooliganism as being deeply rooted in Millwall, and attempted to link them to the far-right political party National Front. Happy days. Never to be forgotten and yes, i agree, fans today simply cannot comprehend what it was like week in week out - especially away. The Shed End Forum relies on revenue to pay for hosting and upgrades. They the shadowy enemies of Millwall are lining up to take relish in the embarrassment caused by explicit racist behaviour. in /nfs/c05/h04/mnt/113983/domains/toragrafix.com/html/wp-content . Millwall had a fearsome mob in those days lead by a bloke who went by the name of Bomber. rivalry, "Millwall hopes to leave dark history behind in F.A. [1] The club and fans of Millwall have a historic association with football hooliganism, which came to prevalence in the 1970s and 1980s with a firm known originally as F-Troop, eventually becoming more widely known as the Millwall Bushwackers, who were one of the most notorious hooligan gangs in England. Sorry, there was a problem loading this page. British Rail Inter city trains that way we could get off any where along the route. It was a different world back then. 10:19 EST 29 Nov 2007 Being 56 years of age now, I remember CBL also as the scariest place to be (or not to be) in the 80s. Delivery cost, delivery date and order total (including tax) shown at checkout. Posted on 29 Mays 2022 by 29 Mays 2022 by The mid 70's in the old second division are my favourite memories for away day sorties. Please try again. The North Stand boys in the mid/late 70's, Gate 17 had the Bridge a reputation but it is fair to say our general support in numbers never met our away in terms of ratio to the opposition. They became the poster-boys for terrace violence, an identity cemented to such a degree that more than three decades later Millwalls mob were the bad guys in the risible hooligan movie Green Street. I think it was a Panorama programme about Millwall and hooliganism where w learned of Harry the Dog. Brentford's goalkeeper Chic Brodie picked it up, inspected it and threw it into his goal. Sounds like a nice scarf. It is worth noting, however, that at least one black youth was featured in Panorama and when Millwall caused havoc at Luton in 1985 a handful of black faces can be seen among the rioters. The locals were not happy and I remember seeing Billy, the Millwall fan at the beginning of the programme, after the game chuntering on. Overcrowding on the terrace holding the Millwall fans forced police to open security gates to allow supporters onto the pitch side to avoid a crush in the oversold terrace. Bobby the Wolf: The True Story of Britain's Most Notorious Football Hooligan, and the West Ham's Intercity Firm's Top Boy Kindle Edition by EWAN RILAD (Author) Format: Kindle Edition 1 rating See all formats and editions Kindle Edition 0.00 This title and over 1 million more are available with Kindle Unlimited 1.99 to buy Paperback The handout should have said: We dont want bigots. [24] In August 1993, Millwall relocated to the New Den and ended that season third in Division One, entering the playoffs to try and win a place in the FA Premier League. Remember all that bollox about the Millwall brick? Then the middle aged child worker who appears to be grooming some young lad through football violence. They want us to fail. These five words were Millwalls breathtakingly inappropriate and self-pitying response to their supporters booing anti-racist gestures. Reply. They ruined football for many folks but again I dont get folks who are into gangsters like ferris as they are scumbags too. JavaScript is disabled. But isnt that an indication of quality? A gang of retired hooligans have been targeted by the BBC for a special thugs-reunited TV show. Millwall thugs reunited hopes dashed Last updated at 15:19 29 November 2007 A gang of retired hooligans have been targeted by the BBC for a special thugs-reunited TV show. [22], The Football Association later handed Millwall three charges and West Ham four. Kelvin MacKenzie, an enemy of football, liked to bask in the reflected toughness during his heyday at The Sun.
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